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Preface	Introduction, scope and contents	Biographical note
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Item inventory	Center of Southwest Studies collection inventories	Center of Southwest Studies

Introduction/ Scope and contents

U 005
THEODORE HETZEL AUDIO RECORDINGS
1958-1981, bulk years 1969-1980
Quantity: 77 audiocassettes and 8 reel audiotapes (1 linear shelf foot, in 4 audiotape boxes and 1 document case)

This collection is useful for anyone researching the history of Native American federal policies, professors seeking primary source audio materials for classroom instruction, and persons seeking the oft-elusive recordings of noted Native American activists of the mid-twentieth century. The Hetzel Collection is important because much of this sort of material is scarce in many research institutions of the United States.

Biographical note

This collection relates to Theodore B. Hetzel's work as a member and director of the Indian Rights Association, a humanitarian group dedicated to influencing federal Indian policy. A prominent Indian rights activist, Hetzel also served as chair of The American Friends Service Committee's committee on the American Indian. He testified before Congress on such issues as the return of sacred Blue Lake to Taos Pueblo. Mr. Hetzel died in Pennsylvania in 1990 at the age of 83.

Placement of the Hetzel materials at the Center of Southwest Studies is appropriate because of Hetzel's lifelong interest in liberal arts education (he taught mechanical engineering at Haverford College) and because of the Native American focus of the collection. Fort Lewis College is one of two institutions of higher education in the U.S. which qualified Native Americans can attend tuition-free. Fort Lewis College emphasizes undergraduate use of primary materials, and a significant volume of student research projects focus on Native American topics.

Administrative information

Acquisition information: Over a period from 1990 to 1992, the Hetzel Collection was donated by Hetzel's widow, Rebecca Wills Hetzel, a resident of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania, with the gracious assistance and cooperation of her children, one of whom lives close to the Fort Lewis College campus. The Center has purchased a microfilm copy of the Indian Rights Association Papers and also has many selected Bureau of Indian Affairs federal records on microfilm which complement the Hetzel materials.

Processing information: The collection was arranged and described by Todd Ellison, Certified Archivist, who created this inventory March 24, 2005; last revised March 13, 2007.

Arrangement scheme: These recordings are numbered in a single sequence, from 1 to 85, and were retained in the order in which the Center received them.

Related collections of materials compiled by Dr. Theodore Hetzel:

collection number	collection title
P 003	Theodore Hetzel photographs
P 023	Theodore Hetzel slide transparencies
M 121	Theodore Hetzel papers
B 002	Theodore Hetzel books

Click here for a descriptive list of the contents of the field notebooks in the Theodore Hetzel papers (M 121). These are useful in tracking where Dr. Hetzel was when he was in the field or attending meetings where he was photographing and/or recording on Native American topics.

Collection U 005: Theodore Hetzel audio recordings

Brief list of titles, listed alphabetically by title (click here for a list sorted by main speaker, with links to digital audio)

#	Tape title	Date	Minutes	Notes about the recording
56 and 57	200 Years: Akwesasne Notes	undated	90	Side A: 200 years: produced by Akwesasne Notes, Mohawk Nation, Via Rooseveltown, NY 13683; continues on Side B. This tape is a copy.
82	Ada Deer: Maine lands termination	1977/03/05	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is presumably blank.
81	American Indians Today: Denny Leonard, George Jackson, Betty Mele and Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at the University of Pennsylvania Museum	1976/04/07	90
41	Bill Thompson	1980/04/21	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
42	Black Hills Deloria	1980/09/3	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
8	Black Mesa, Haliwa	1973/05	90	Black Mesa; Haleiwa, Chinese philosophy [or, Philadelphia?].
38	Brightman, Bellecourt, Donohue, Joplin	1978/08/29	45	Side A: Donahue; Ragtime Joplin jazz; Vernon Bellecourt; Leighman Brightman; Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
10	Dick Cavett, U.S. Senate [Bill?] 52652	1973/03/21 and 1976/05/17	90	Side A: Dick Cavett re: Wounded Knee on 3/21/73 Side B: U.S. Senate Bill 52652 on 5/17/76.
7	Eagle Bull	1973/04/09	90	House Hearings, Eagle Bull, Wounded Knee, Dick Wilson
63	Earl Old Person	1970/04/30	60	This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.
1	Earl Old Person at Haverford	1970	90
44	End of Indian Committee, Rick Farmer	1981/02/10	45	Side A: Rick Farmer; Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
66	Fairbanks School	undated	60	This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined. Side A: Fairbanks School, Bennett, Nagogruk, Jenson, Jones; Side B: Delegates, meeting place, Gray, adjourn.
17	Gordon Harris, Virginia Smith	1975/03/20 and 1975/04/22	90	Side A: Gordon Harris, 3/20/75; Side B: Deloria on TV 3/75, Virginia “Gini” Smith, 4/22/75.
59	Harry Watt and Richard La Course at Indian Rights annual meeting	undated	60	Continued on Side B.
85	Henry Fonda on Indian America, KYH	1974/04/07	90	Cf. tape #12 (Indian America- Henry Fonda on ABC TV Channel 6, Philadelphia, 1/5/74)
43	Indian Committee, Longwalk survival and Weslager Lenape	1980/11/13	90	Side A: Long Walk survival; Side B: Weslager Lenape.
30	Indians (National Geographic TV)	1977/02/15	60	Up to 0.2 on Side B.
26	IRA Annual Meeting: Ernest Stevens	1976/05/05	90
83	IRA Annual Meeting: Forrest Gerard	1978/03/29	90	96th annual meeting. Continued on Side B.
40	IRA Annual Meeting: Hanay G.	1980	45	Hanay G.; Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette may be blank.
29	IRA Annual Meeting: Tom Tureen	1977/04/27	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette may be blank.
39	IRA [Annual Meeting?]: Sandra Cadwalader	1978/03/15	90
60	Iroquois social dance songs and Navajo sway dances/ Enemy Way	undated	60	Side A: Iroquois social dance songs; Side B: Navajo sway dances. Access to this recording is restricted.
18	Jerome War Cloud, Barnesville	1975/03/25	90	Side A: Barnesville, 3/25/1975; Side B: Jerome War Cloud.
76	Jimmy Durham, AITC (American Indian Treaty Council)	1974/11/16	45	Side B of this 90-minute tape may be blank.
19	John Witthoft, Iroquois, and Oren Lyons	1974/12/12 and 1975/01/09	90	Side A: John Witthoft, Iroqouis, 12/12/74; Side B: Oren Lyons at FM, 1/9/75.
22	John Witthoft on Pre-Colonial Indians	3/24/76	90	At University of Pennsylvania Museum.
55	John Witthoft on Pre-Colonial Indians	undated	90	At University of Pennsylvania; Side B: continued.
64	Kahn-Tineta Horn	undated	60	This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.
24	L. Crow Dog and Dallas Chief Eagle, Bob Burnett	1976/4/29 and 1976/11/13	90	Side A: Dallas Chief Eagle, Philadelphia, on 4/29/76; Side B: Crow Dog / Bob Burnett, on 11/13/76.
9	Leon Cook, IRA	1973/05/20	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
4	Lloyd Elm at Oswego, Black Mesa	1972/05	90
5	NCAI	1973/10/31 1973/11/01	90	Mad Bear 10/73, Lloyd Meeds, Tom Veeder, 11/73, NCAI election
6	NCAI dinner	1973/06/25	90
31	Nora Dean, Fellowship Farm	undated	60	Nora Dean is said to be the last Lenape Indian to speak the Lenape language; this tape is a copy.
13	Professor Becker, CC archaeology, West Chester County (Pa.)	1974/01/25 (on box) or 1984/01/30 (on cassette)	90	Lenni Lenape, Paul Becker CC Archaeology Chester County
49	R. Wetherill	undated	90	Continued on Side B.
50	R. Wetherill	undated	90	Continued on Side B.
51	R. Wetherill	undated	90	Continued on Side B.
52	R. Wetherill	undated	90	Continued on Side B.
74	Ramon Roubideaux	1974/01/25	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
3	Ray Fadden	1971/04	90	States "0-25' "
62	Robert L. Bennett: Alaska	1969/04/23	60	This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.
45	Roy Crazy Horse Johnson	1983/05/12	45	Side A: Roy Crazy Horse Johnson; Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
80	Sandra Spaulding	1975/08/17	45	Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is presumably blank.
36	Seneca Museum, Salamanec	1977/08/01	90
23	Seneca Singers and AFSC (American Friends Service Committee)	1976/11/06	90	Side A: Seneca Singers at University of Pennsylvania; Side B: AFSC Nakawatase.
37	Skyhorse – Mohawk	1977/10/20	60	Is Side B blank?
68	Songs	1958/1969	30	This is on a reel of tape. Not necessarily Native American. Includes Big Band music and ethnic music.
61	Tanana, Alaska	1963/06	60	This is on a reel of tape, recorded at 3.75” per second. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined. In the tape box are Dr. Hetzel’s four handwritten pages of notes about the contents of the recording. Contents/speakers include: Side A: Army Corps of Engineers, Col. Sawyer, Father Convert, post offices, and delegates; Side B: committee appointments, reports and recommendations.
65	Tanana, Alaska	undated	90	This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.
2	Taos	1971/08/14	60
53	Taos songs and Lehrer songs	undated	90	Phonograph music recorded onto an audiocassette by Theodore Hetzel. Side A: Taos phono music; Side B: Lehrer songs.
58	Taos Round Dance, Part 1	1969/08/11	90	Recorded at Taos Pueblo, N.M., 8/11/1969. 8 songs on each side. Published by Indian House, PO Box 472, Taos, N.M., all rights reserved, copyr. 1972. Recording #IH 1003-C.
79	Theodore B. Hetzel and Gordon Harris at Philadelphia Yearly Meeting	1975/03/29	50	Side B: continued, with Harris to .20; remainder of this 90-minute audiocassette is presumably blank.
84	Theodore B. Hetzel at Crosslands (Kennett Square, PA.): Quakers and Indians	1985/04/21	90	Continues on Side B. This tape is a copy (cf. tape #48).
48	Theodore B. Hetzel at Crosslands (Kennett Square, PA.), Quakers and Indians	1985/04/21	90	This tape is a copy (cf. tape #84). Side A: Ted Hetzel at Crosslands Quakers and Indians; Side B: continued.
14	Theodore B. Hetzel at Pendle Hill	1974/05/13 1974/05/20	90	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel at Pendle Hill Friends and Indians, 5/13/74; Side B: Theodore B. Hetzel at Eastern and Urban Indians 5/20/74. This tape is a copy.
54	Theodore B. Hetzel at the Yearly Meeting at University of Pennsylvania: Indian injustices	undated	90	Side A: T.B.H at U of P Yearly: Indian Injustices; Side B: continued. This tape is a copy.
73	Theodore B. Hetzel at YMCA/ Indian Defense League: includes Wounded Knee, BIA	1973/05/24 1973/05/26	90	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel at YMCA: includes Wounded Knee, BIA, 5/24/1973; Side B: Indian Defense League, Indian music, Sally Patterson, Mer. Quinn, 5/26/1973.
46	Theodore B. Hetzel interview	1984/01/17	90	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel interview by Larry Houptmon; Side B: continued. This tape is a copy.
47	Theodore B. Hetzel interview	1984/01/17	90	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel interviewed by Larry Houptmon; Side B: continued. This tape is a copy.
71	Theodore B. Hetzel on Channel 29, Shenandoah	1973/03/02	45	Side A: Vernon Bellecourt on TV, ’49 AIM; Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.
67	Theodore B. Hetzel on radio	undated	60	This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.
15	Theodore B. Hetzel on religion, art, literature, etc.	1974/05/27	90	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel on religion, art, literature, 5/27/74; Side B: Theodore B. Hetzel at Pendle Hill on cultural issues, 6/3/74. This tape is a copy.
78	Theodore B. Hetzel on WCAU-TV with Betty Mele on IRA and American Indian concerns	1975/01/29	60	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel with Betty Mele on WCAU-TV on IRA and American Indian concerns, 1/29/1975; Side B: continued, with WCAU Dick Clayton. This tape is a copy.
72	Theodore B. Hetzel on WHYY-TV: Wounded Knee; Bidge & Vint, etc.	1973/03/20-21	90	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel and when did Gloria die?, 3/20/1973; McKay R. Deming Wounded Knee, 3/21/1973: Side B: Wounded Knee; Shenandoah Defense.
75	Theodore B. Hetzel on WIFI with Elaine P. Lariviese on the Indian Rights Association	1976/12/19 1974/01/25	45	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel and Elaine P. Lariviese (Lariviere?) on the Indian Rights Association, 12/19/1976; Side B: (15 minutes) Robert Wells KYW, 1/25/1974. This tape is a copy.
	These are our Words, 200 years Akwesasne Notes	undated	90	This tape is a copy.
35	Tink Thompson Skyhorse - Mohawk	1977/07/04	90	Is Side B blank?
25	Today Show; American Indian: A Quiet Revolution	1976/09/10 and 1976/10/13	60	Side A: American Indian: a quiet revolution, on 9/10/76; Side B: Indian Today Show, 10/13/76.
69	[untitled]	undated	60	Apparently regarding Apaches. No introduction, and the sound quality is not good. This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.
27	[Vernon] Bellecourt; Navajo singing	1976/03/20	90	Side A: Vernon Bellecourt; Side B: Navajo singing; ?? Donahue 8/29/78, Joplin, Lehurnam Brighton.
21	Vernon Bellecourt, NASC	1976/03/20 and 1976/03/20	90	Native American Solidarity Committee, Jimmy Durham, Ganienkeh.
11	Vine Deloria	1973/02/07	90	“30- Cornelius Seneca.”
12	Vine Deloria, Henry Fonda	1974/01/05-06	90	Side A: Indian America- Henry Fonda on ABC TV Channel 6, Philadelphia, 1/5/74; Side B: Vine Deloria on TV Tunica, LA 1/6/74.
70	Walter Currie	1971/06/07	60	Side A: untitled but presumably also Walter Currie; Side B: Currie.
20	WCAU-TV: Facenda, and Oxendine Lynch	1975/01/19	90	Side A: Oxendine Lynch, Nakawatase, and Sister Consolada; Side B: Oxendine Lynch, Nakawatase.
77	WCAU-TV: Uncle Tomahantz (sp?); Ray Fadden at end	1970/01 1975/01/20	60	Side A: WCAU-TV: Uncle Tomahantz (sp?); Ray Fadden at end, re-run TV, 1/1970; Side B: NBC Today: Navajos, 1/20/1975.
16	White Roots of Peace, Mohawk Indian Nation Ithaca Conference	1974/06/23	90	Rawkokwats 235 to 509; J Gambrill
28	William Fenton: Image of the Iroquois	1976/03/31	90	Colonial era Side B is blank?
32	Wilson Crowe at the Fellowship Farm	undated	60	Side B is blank?
33	Wilson Crowe and family at the Fellowship Farm: Peyote Ceremony	1977/05/21	90	Side A: Wilson Crowe and family at the Fellowship Farm: Native American church service; Continues on Side B. This tape is a copy.
34	Wilson Crowe at the Fellowship Farm: Peyote Service	1977/05/31	90
Total number of minutes of audio recordings:			6,380

A selective list of 28 of these recordings that have been digitized.
Sorted by name of main speaker and with a link to the digital audio recording in MP3 file format:

Unique ID #	Speaker	Recording date	Recording description	Digital audio
FLCu005027	Bellecourt, Vernon	1976-12-19	Side A: Vernon Bellecourt; Side B: Navajo singing; ?? Donahue 8/29/78, Joplin, Lehurnam Brighton.	Side A Side B
FLCu005062	Bennett, Robert L.	1969-04-23	Robert L. Bennett speaking: Alaska. This is on a reel of tape. The total number of minutes has not yet been determined.	Part 1 Part 2
FLCu005024B	Burnett, Bob	1976-11-13	On Side B: Crow Dog / Bob Burnett, on 11/13/76. (Side A is Dallas Chief Eagle, Philadelphia, on 4/29/76.)	Side B
FLCu005024A	Chief Eagle, Dallas	1976-04-29	On Side A: Dallas Chief Eagle, Philadelphia, on 4/29/76. (Side B is Crow Dog / Bob Burnett, on 11/13/76.)	Side A
FLCu005009	Cook, Leon	1973-05-20	Leon Cook of the Indian Rights Association is speaking. The second half of Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.	Side A Side B
FLCu005031	Dean, Nora	197-?	Nora Dean speaking at Fellowship Farm, undated (circa 1970s). Nora Dean is said to be the last Lenape Indian to speak the Lenape language; this tape is a copy.	Side A Side B
FLCu005076	Durham, Jimmy	1974-11-16	Jimmy Durham, AITC (American Indian Treaty Council).	Side A Side B
FLCu005004	Elm, Lloyd	1972-05	Lloyd Elm speaking at Oswego, Black Mesa, 1972/05	Side A Side B
FLCu005054	Hetzel, Theodore B.	197-?	Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at the Yearly Meeting at University of Pennsylvania: Indian injustices, undated (circa 1970s). Continued on Side B. This tape is a copy.	Side A Side B
FLCu005067	Hetzel, Theodore B.	197-?	Theodore B. Hetzel on radio, undated (circa 1970s). Contents include his appearances on WFLN, Bob Brugger's show; WCAU Philadelphia Spotlight, with Margaret Mary Kearney; WPEN, the Frank Ford Show; and WRCV, Jr. Town Meeting of the Air. This is on a reel of tape.	Side A Side B
FLCu005071	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1973-03-02	Theodore B. Hetzel on Channel 29, Shenandoah, 1973/03/02. Side A: Vernon Bellecourt on TV, ’49 AIM; Side B of this 90-minute audiocassette is blank.	Side A
FLCu005072	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1973-03-20	Theodore B. Hetzel on WHYY-TV: Wounded Knee; Bidge & Vint, etc. Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel and when did Gloria die?, 3/20/1973; McKay R. Deming Wounded Knee, 3/21/1973: Side B: Wounded Knee; Shenandoah Defense.	Side A Side B
FLCu005073	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1973-05-24	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at YMCA on topics including Wounded Knee and theBIA, 5/24/1973; Side B: Indian Defense League, Indian music, Sally Patterson, Mer. Quinn, 5/26/1973.	Side A Side B
FLCu005014	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1974-05-13	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at Pendle Hill Friends and Indians, 5/13/74; Side B: Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at Eastern and Urban Indians 5/20/74. This tape is a copy.	Side A Side B
FLCu005015	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1974-05-27	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel on religion, art, literature, 5/27/74; Side B: Theodore B. Hetzel at Pendle Hill on cultural issues, 6/3/74. This tape is a copy.	Side A Side B
FLCu005078	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1975-01-29	Side A: Theodore B. Hetzel with Betty Mele on WCAU-TV on IRA and American Indian concerns, 1/29/1975; Side B: continued, with WCAU Dick Clayton. This tape is a copy.	Side A Side B
FLCu005079	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1975-03-29	Theodore B. Hetzel and Gordon Harris at Philadelphia Yearly Meeting, 1975-03-29. Side B: continued, with Harris to .20; remainder of this 90-minute audiocassette is presumably blank.	Side A Side B
FLCu005081	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1976-04-07	The name of this presentation was: American Indians Today. Denny Leonard, George Jackson, Betty Mele and Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at the University of Pennsylvania Museum	Side A Side B
FLCu005046	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1984-01-17	Theodore B. Hetzel interview by Larry Hauptman; continued on Side B. This tape is a copy.	Side A Side B
FLCu005048	Hetzel, Theodore B.	1985-04-21	Theodore B. Hetzel speaking at Crosslands Retirement Community (Kennett Square, PA.) on Quakers and Indians. This tape is a copy (as is Hetzel tape #84). Side A: Ted Hetzel at Crosslands Quakers and Indians; Side B: continued.	Side A Side B
FLCu005005	Mad Bear	1973-10	National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) speakers: Mad Bear 10/73, Lloyd Meeds, Tom Veeder, 11/73, NCAI election.	Side A Side B
FLCu005063	Old Person, Earl	1970-04-30	Earl Old Person [at Haverford, PA.]. This is on a reel of tape.	Entire
FLCu005026	Stevens, Ernest	1976-05-05	Ernest Stevens at Indian Rights annual meeting.	Side A Side B
FLCu005029	Tureen, Tom	1977-04-27	Tom Tureen at Indian Rights annual meeting, 1977-04-27.	Side A Side B
FLCu005068	Unidentified singers	1958/ 1969-04-23	Songs, 1958. This is on a reel of tape. Not necessarily Native American. Includes Big Band music and ethnic music.	Side A Side B
FLCu005002	Unidentified speakers and Theodore Hetzel	1971-08-14	A Taos (N.M.) meeting, with multiple speakers.	Side A Side B
FLCu005059	Watt, Harry	197-?	Richard Harry Watt and Richard La Course at Indian Rights annual meeting, undated (circa 1970s).	Side A Side B
FLCu005022	Witthoft, John	1974-03-24	John Witthoft speaking about Pre-Colonial Indians, at the University of Pennsylvania Museum.	Side A Side B

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©2005 by Fort Lewis College Foundation, Center of Southwest Studies account (revised 2007). The Center does not have transcriptions for these recordings, but a number of them are now accessible in digital audio.

©2005 by Fort Lewis College Foundation, Center of Southwest Studies account (revised 2007).
The Center does not have transcriptions for these recordings, but a number of them are now accessible in digital audio.